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Apr 26, 2017

Welcome to The Shaun Tabatt Show! Today I speak with Don Whitney about his book Family Worship (Crossway, 2016).

Here's the ground we cover in this conversation:

  • Don, we last spoke in September of 2015 about your book Praying the Bible. Give us an update on some of what has been keeping you busy since then. (00:35 - 01:51)
  • Next let’s get into the story behind the book. How did the idea for Family Worship get its start. (01:52 - 04:32)
  • Give us some examples of family worship that are found in the Bible. (04:33 - 10:09)
  • Next talk to us about some of the places we see family worship popping up throughout church history. (10:10 - 16:30)
  • As we’re looking to bring family worship into our homes, what are the key elements of family worship that we should be thinking about? (16:31 - 21:29)
  • If I had the technology to beam you in front of every reader as they finish the last page of Family Worship, what challenge or parting word of encouragement would you want to share with each of them? (21:30 - 24:47)
  • Don, if the listeners want to connect with you and find out more about Family Worship, where should they go on the web? (24:48 - 25:36)

About the Book:  Gathering together for worship is an indispensable part of your family’s spiritual life. It is a means for God to reveal himself to you and your loved ones in a powerful way.

This practical guide by Donald S. Whitney will prove invaluable to families—with or without children in the home—as they practice God-glorifying, Christ-exalting worship through Bible reading, prayer, and singing. Includes a discussion guide in the back for small groups.

About the Author:  Donald S. Whitney is professor of biblical spirituality and associate dean at the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Kentucky. He has written several books related to Christian spirituality, including Spiritual Disciplines for the Christian Life and Praying the Bible. Don blogs regularly at

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Apr 25, 2017

Welcome to The Shaun Tabatt Show! Today I speak with Michael Horton about his brand new book Rediscovering the Holy Spirit: God’s Perfecting Presence in Creation, Redemption, and Everyday Life (Zondervan, 2017).

Here's the ground we cover in this conversation:

  • I know you’re going to be new to a number of my listeners, so let’s give them a chance to get to know you a bit better. If one of us bumped into you in line at a coffee shop and asked you to tell us a bit about yourself and what you do, how would you respond? (00:38 - 01:29)
  • Next let’s get into the story behind the book. Tell us about the lecture series that Rediscovering the Holy Spirit grew out of. (01:30 - 02:50)
  • The title of the book seems to suggest that we’ve lost touch with or have somehow been neglecting the Holy Spirit. What happened, how did we move towards depersonalizing or marginalizing the Spirit? (02:51 - 07:39)
  • Going back to where it all begins in the book of Genesis, what can we learn about the Spirit from the creation account? (07:40 - 10:38)
  • What do we learn about the Spirit during the incarnation, the time when Jesus walked the earth? (10:39 - 15:15)
  • What about the work of the Holy Spirit from Pentecost forward? (15:16 - 19:16)
  • Talk to us about the work of the Spirit in the midst of the sacraments such as baptism and communion. (19:17 - 20:55)
  • What are some practical steps the listeners can take to grow in their awareness of and dependence on the Holy Spirit? (20:56 - 23:20)
  • When you think of readers getting to the the last page of Rediscovering the Holy Spirit, what challenge or parting word of encouragement would you want to share with each of them? (23:21 - 24:05)
  • Michael, if the listeners want to connect with you and find out more about your books, where should they go on the web? (24:06 - 25:04)

About the Book:  For the Spirit, being somewhat forgotten is an occupational hazard. The Holy Spirit is so actively involved in our lives that we can take his presence for granted. As they say, familiarity breeds contempt. Just as we take breathing for granted, we can take the Holy Spirit for granted simply because we constantly depend on him. Like the cane that soon feels like an extension of the blind man’s own body, we too easily begin to think of the Holy Spirit as an extension of ourselves.

Yet the Spirit is at the center of the action in the divine drama from Genesis 1:2 all the way to Revelation 22:17. The Spirit’s work is as essential as the Father’s and the Son’s, yet the Spirit’s work is always directed to the person and work of Christ. In fact, the efficacy of the Holy Spirit’s mission is measured by the extent to which we are focused on Christ. The Holy Spirit is the person of the Trinity who brings the work of the Father, in the Son, to completion. In everything that the Triune God performs, this perfecting work is characteristic of the Spirit.

In Rediscovering the Holy Spirit, author, pastor, and theologian Mike Horton introduces readers to the neglected person of the Holy Spirit, showing that the work of God’s Spirit is far more ordinary and common than we realize. Horton argues that we need to take a step back every now and again to focus on the Spirit himself—his person and work—in order to recognize him as someone other than Jesus or ourselves, much less something in creation. Through this contemplation we can gain a fresh dependence on the Holy Spirit in every area of our lives.

About the Author:  Michael Horton (PhD, DD) is Professor of Systematic Theology and Apologetics at Westminster Seminary California. Author of many books, including The Christian Faith: A Systematic Theology for Pilgrims on the Way, he also hosts the White Horse Inn radio program. He lives with his wife, Lisa, and four children in Escondido, California.

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Apr 24, 2017

Welcome to The Shaun Tabatt Show! Today I speak with Jake McCandless about his new book Spiritual Prepper: Tapping into Overlooked Prophecies to Prepare You for Doomsday (WND Books, 2017).

Here's the ground we cover in this conversation:

  • First off Jake, since this is your first time on the show, let’s give the listeners a chance to get to know you you better. Tell us a bit of the Jake McCandless origin story. (00:41 - 04:10)
  • Next let’s get into the story behind the book. You say that, this prophecy book is unlike most, as the prophecies you address focus on our spirituality, morality, and faith, not the environment, economy, or geopolitics. Talk to us about the catalyst or aha moment that got you started down the path of bringing this book to life. (04:11 - 09:17)
  • What sorts of misperceptions do authors have as they’re starting out? (09:18 - 14:22)
  • Talk to us about Prepping for Persecution. (14:23 -  18:25)
  • Talk to us about Prepping in a Weakened Church. (18:26 - 23:41)
  • Talk to us about Prepping against Shiny Things. (23:42 - 30:20)
  • I was glad that you included a Spiritual Prepper’s Checklist at the end of each chapter. How would you like to see both individuals and study groups put that to use? (30:21 - 32:35)
  • If I had the ability to beam you in front of every reader as they finish the last page of Spiritual Prepper, what challenge or parting word of encouragement would you want to share with each of them? (32:36 - 34:38)
  • As you look back on the journey of writing Spiritual Prepper, what was the most significant truth or lesson you learned along the way? (34:39 - 36:51)
  • Are there any tools, tips, or routines that you’d share with new and aspiring authors to help them to be successful? (36:52 - 44:04)
  • Jake, if the listeners want to connect with you and find out more about Spiritual Prepper, where should they go on the web? (44:05 - 45:00)

About the Book: As the world appears to be spiraling out of control, Spiritual Prepper helps you focus your spirituality, morality, and faith in these troubled times.

Religious liberty is under attack. Immorality is the standard. Christians are being persecuted. The church is struggling because it’s been getting solutions from the wrong places. We shouldn’t be surprised about these current conditions, but we are.

Spiritual Prepper provides a fresh perspective on end-time prophecy by drawing out the spiritual effects of natural disasters, the Antichrist, the mark of the beast, topics like the spiritual implication of identifying with Christianity (2 Peter 3:3), and gravitating to messages you want to hear (2 Tim. 4:3-4).

The biblical prophecies that explain these events and could help us cope have been overshadowed. Spiritual Prepper brings to light and makes relevant the forgotten prophecies that explain that men will take advantage of women (2 Tim. 3:6), Christians will quench the power of the Holy Spirit (2 Tim 3:1-5), believers will betray fellow believers (Matt. 24:3-13), and more.

Spiritual Prepper is a guide to families and churches who need encouragement in the face of loved ones who have turned away from God and their faith. As the fallen word races towards the day of judgment, the time to be prepared spiritually is now. There will come a time when a spiritual disaster hits and we have to remain faithful. The goal is that you’d persevere and remain faithful. That on the day you see the Lord, you’d hear, “well done my good and faithful servant.”

About the Author:  Jake McCandless is an author and former pastor who serves as the executive director and lead speaker for Prophecy Simplified. He has a Bachelor of Arts in Bible from Central Baptist College (2004) and an Advanced Masters of Divinity from Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary (2009). Much of his theological training has been in the field of eschatology. He has received numerous academic awards and recognitions in ministry, such as the Zondervan National Greek Award and the prestigious Yousef Costa Excellence in Preaching Award from Central Baptist College. He has spent the past eleven years as lead pastor of Mount Vernon Baptist Church in Mount Vernon, AR, and just recently made the difficult decision to step away from the pastorate to lead Prophecy Simplified. He spent seven years as a youth evangelist with Sold Out Ministries and has been involved on staff in churches since 1998. Jake is married to Amanda. She’s an elementary school teacher, but currently stays home with their two daughters, Andrea (2011) and Addison (2013). Jake enjoys time with family, ministry, hunting, fishing, coffee, writing, and college football.

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Apr 23, 2017

Welcome to The Shaun Tabatt Show! Today I speak with Peter Greer about his and Phil Smith's book Created to Flourish: How Employment-Based Solutions Help Eradicate Poverty.

Here's the ground we cover in this conversation:

  • Peter, you and I have had a chance to get to know each other through my work with Bethany House, but I know that you’re going to be new to many of my listeners, so take a few minutes to fill them in on the Peter Greer origin story. (00:34 - 02:47)
  • You serve as President and CEO for Hope International, tell us about the mission of your organization and how your work literally changes lives all over the world. (02:48 - 7:08)
  • Every book project has its own unique journey with a backstory. How did the ideas behind Created to Flourish get their start? (7:09 - 9:26)
  • You had the privilege of revisiting and updating the message of Created to Flourish. What did you learn in that process and what is different about you this time around? (9:27 - 12:11)
  • What do people really need to know when they’re thinking about the state of poverty in the world. (12:12 - 14:57)
  • How has the church tended to respond to poverty and what might we consider doing differently? I like the phrase you use about giving a hand up, not a hand out. (14:58 - 19:23)
  • Talk to us about how we can get involved, both as individuals and also as members of churches and other large organizations. (19:24 - 21:10)
  • If readers only take away one thing from reading this book, what do you hope that is? (21:11 - 21:55)
  • Tell us about a few of your other books. (21:56 - 25:07)
  • Peter, if the listeners want to find out more about Hope International and get a free copy of Created to Flourish, where should they go on the web? (25:08 - 25:37)

About the Book:  This eminently practical book by two leading experts on poverty alleviation offers a clear plan to help Christ-followers translate their compassion into thoughtful action. Authors Peter Greer and Phil Smith draw on their personal experiences to discuss proven solutions for effectively alleviating poverty. Created to Flourish examines the pitfalls of traditional approaches and outlines a new model of economic development aimed at breaking the cycle of dependency. Through discipleship-based savings groups and small loans, families in poverty are employing their God-given talents to provide for their families and serve their communities. With photographs showcasing the dignity of clients from around the HOPE International network, this book provides straightforward guidance for individuals and groups eager to carry God's justice, mercy, and compassion throughout the world.

About the Author:  Peter Greer is president and CEO of HOPE International, a global nonprofit focused on addressing both physical and spiritual poverty through microfinance. He has a master's degree in public policy from Harvard's Kennedy School. Peter is the coauthor of The Spiritual Danger of Doing Good, Mission Drift, and six other books. He speaks at conferences, including Catalyst and Passion, and has been featured by media outlets such as CNN, Christianity Today, and World. Peter lives in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, with his wife, Laurel, and three children.

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Apr 22, 2017

Welcome to The Shaun Tabatt Show! Today I speak with Linda Znachko about her book He Knows Your Name: How One Abandoned Baby Inspired Me to Say Yes to God (Kregel Publications, 2016).

Here's the ground we cover in our conversation:

  • Your book, He Knows Your Name, tells of how your ministry by the same name got started. Tell us a little bit about how the news story about an abandoned baby inspired you to say yes to God’s plan for you. (00:39 - 01:31)
  • While anyone who watched the news or read the story of the abandoned would have certainly found it to be a terrible situation, you were struck on a deeper level. What was it about this baby that called you to action? (01:32 - 06:20)
  • Were your family and friends support of your mission to provide a funeral and burial for the baby? How did you husband react? (06:21 - 11:40)
  • Your journey began with wanting to provide a funeral for one abandoned baby but quickly grew into something much larger. Share with us the call you received while waiting to hear back about Baby Doe. (11:41 - 16:30)
  • What advice can you offer those who have friends or family walking through the devastating loss of a child? Are some things more helpful or hurtful than others? (16:31 - 18:54)
  • Linda, I know many of my listeners are going to want to find out more, so where are some of the places they can get a copy of the book? (18:55 - 21:14)

About the Book:  When the evening news reported a dead baby abandoned in a local dumpster, Linda Znachko's comfortable life changed. She was suddenly convicted—God was asking her to provide a dignified burial for this tiny lost child. Linda said yes. She had no idea where that first small yes would lead.Linda found herself in places she never dreamed she would be: at the graveside of the child of an abused mother; by the side of a mother fighting for her lost child; and at the funeral of a Texas stripper who died two days before her baptism but left a legacy of love behind. When Linda stepped out of her comfort zone and into these implausible places with people she was unlikely to otherwise encounter, she discovered the life she never knew she wanted—a life of saying yes to God whenever He asks.

Today, Linda has a ministry that gives children a name in life, and dignity and honor in death. When she shares her stories of broken lives redeemed, other broken people respond, and so the ripple effects of that long-ago yes continue to spread, touching lives that yearn for healing, and underscoring the fact that every life matters to God.

About the Author:  Linda Znachko is the founder of He Knows Your Name Ministries. She is a popular speaker at conferences and retreats, and has been interviewed regularly by local and regional media since her encounter with Baby Nicholas.

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Apr 19, 2017

Welcome to The Shaun Tabatt Show! Leonard Sweet returns to the program today to share about his brand new book Mother Tongue: How Our Heritage Shapes Our Story (NavPress, 2017).

Here's the ground we cover in this conversation:

  • Let’s begin with the story behind the book. What prompted you to want to write on this topic? (00:37 - 02:01)
  • Was there anything that stood out as either unique or particularly challenging about the experience and journey of writing this book? (02:02 - 03:07)
  • Give us a bit of context. What are a few of the key things we need to know about your mother? (03:08 - 07:30)
  • You selected “artefacts from” your “memory box” to help tell your mother’s story. Can you give us an example of one of these items and tell us why that item is meaningful? (07:31 - 10:26)
  • What do you consider your mother’s biggest challenges and greatest accomplishments in life? (10:27 - 12:33)
  • You explain your home as a “religious community.” Please elaborate on what made it so and how that impacted you. (12:34 - 16:19)
  • You say in your book that “Home is where your books are.” How did reading and books shape you? (16:20 - 18:30)
  • Your mother advised you, “that if your mission can be completed in your lifetime, it isn’t a big enough dream”. How have these words motivated and inspired you? (18:31 - 21:24)
  • When you think of readers getting to that final page of Mother Tongue, what do you most hope each of them takes away from reading your book? (21:25 - 23:39)
  • Leonard, if the listeners want to find out more about you and more about your books, where should they go on the web? (23:40 - 24:04)

About the Book:  Most people know Leonard Sweet, one of the world’s most influential evangelicals, as a sharp cultural critic who helps us see how to get in front of the future rather than be bowled over by it. One of his greatest influences was his mother, a groundbreaking (and sometimes controversial) minister who defied convention while honoring tradition. In this exceptionally personal work, Len Sweet opens his mother’s memory box, and in the process he helps us all embrace the future with confidence while tethering us to a faith that transcends time. Through Len’s experience, we all will better understand and process how our own heritage affects our legacy.

An ideal resource for mothers, adult children, and families seeking resources to set up their kids to flourish.

About the Author:  Leonard Sweet is a popular global speaker and prolific author, and he holds professorships at George Fox University, Drew University, and Tabor College. His daily social media postings have made him one of the most influential Christians in the US and around the world. Leonard is also the premier writer and owner of the fast-growing, innovative preaching resource and has published more than 1,500 sermons. 

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Apr 18, 2017

Welcome to The Shaun Tabatt Show! Today I speak with Roberts Liardon about his latest book in the God's General series, God's Generals: The Martyrs (Whitaker House, 2016).

In this conversation, Roberts shares about the calling God placed on his life for sharing about His generals, how he chooses who to write about, and the future of this spectacular series.

About the Book:  In his sixth God's Generals volume, Roberts Liardon chronicles some of the great martyrs for the faith—and some of the lesser-known ones. Their inspirational testimony, acts of courage, and even seasons of doubt both encourage and point awareness toward the persecuted church of the twenty-first century.

The book includes profiles on...

  • Apostle Paul and Stephen the Faithful (c. 100 AD)
  • Polycarp of Smyrna, Justin Martyr, and Ignatius of Antioch (c. 100-175 AD)
  • Perpetua, Blandina, and Irenaeus and Fabian (c. 175-350 AD)
  • William Tyndale, John Wyclyffe, Patrick Hamilton, and John Hus (c. 1300-1530)
  • Anne Askew, John Foxe, Hugh Latimer, and Thomas Cranmer (c. 1530-1560)
  • Martyrs from the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries
  • Dietrich Bonhoeffer, John and Betty Stam, and Jim Elliot (c. 1900-1950)
  • Wang Zhiming, Gaspar Makil, and Archbishop Oscar Romero (c. 1950-1990)
  • Martyrs from the twenty-first century, in regions such as the Philippines, Iraq, Libya, and Syria

About the Author:  Roberts Liardon has preached in more than eighty countries with extensive ministry in Europe, Asia, and Africa. He founded Roberts Liardon Ministries, along with the multi-faceted outreaches of Embassy Christian Center, Embassy Ministerial Association, and Operation 500. His four-dozen-plus books have been translated into over fifty languages and circulated throughout the world. As founder of the Reformers and Revivalists Historical Museum, Roberts also fervently pursues research of our Christian heritage, which he has documented in God’s Generals: Why They Succeeded and Why Some Failed, God’s Generals: The Roaring Reformers, and God’s Generals: The Healing Evangelists. His ministry is now based in Sarasota, Florida.

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Apr 17, 2017

Welcome to The Shaun Tabatt Show! Today I speak with Gary Wayne about his book The Genesis 6 Conspiracy: How Secret Societies and the Descendants of Giants Plan to Enslave Humankind.

Here's the ground we cover in this conversation:

  • You describe yourself as a Christian Contrarian, what exactly does that mean? (00:47 - 03:31)
  • Clearly you’ve put thousands of hours of research into the book. What was the catalyst or spark that got you started down the path of exploring these topics? (03:32 - 10:30)
  • What are some of the key things we need to know about Adam, the Garden of Eden, and the seven sacred sciences? (10:31 - 15:53)
  • We encounter the Sons of God and the daughters of man coming together in Genesis 6. Tell us how your view differs from the traditional Sethite view. (15:54 - 20:50)
  • What is going on in the lines of Seth and Cain leading up to the flood? (20:51 - 27:08)
  • How do we end up with giants after the flood? (27:09 - 37:16)
  • How do you make sense of the account of the Tower of Babel? (37:17 - 43:48)
  • Talk to us about how hero stories throughout history and even our modern day hero stories are simply calling back to something from history. (43:49 - 49:53)
  • What are some of the secret societies that have grown up out of the Brotherhoods of the snake? (49:54 - 56:09)
  • Any thoughts on why we see the Knights Templar and Freemasons represented so positively in movies like National Treasure? (56:10 - 58:07)
  • How do you hope readers are impacted as they read The Genesis 6 Conspiracy? 58:08 - 59:07)
  • Gary, if the listeners want to connect with you and find out more about the book, where should they go on the web? (59:08 - 1:00:25)

About the Book:  There are giants among us, passing largely unnoticed, intent on carrying out a secret plan to enslave all humanity. They may not look like giants today, but their bloodlines extend all the way back to the Nephilim-the offspring of angels who mated with human women-described in Genesis 6 when giants roamed the land. Gary Wayne, author of The Genesis 6 Conspiracy: How Secret Societies and the Descendants of Giants Plan to Enslave Humankind, details the role of modern-day Nephilim in Satan's plan to install the Antichrist at the End of Days. When God cast the angel Lucifer and his followers out of heaven, Lucifer set into motion a scheme to ensure the Nephilim survived. Why? Because from the bloodlines of these Nephilim the Antichrist will come. To keep his plan alive, Satan has enlisted the loyalty of secret societies such as the Freemasons, the Templars, and the Rosicrucians to conspire in teaching a theology and a history of the world that is contrary to the biblical one. This Genesis 6 Conspiracy marches toward the Great Tribulation, when the loyalty of the Terminal Generation-this generation-will be tested. The Bible, along with many other ancient sources, clearly records the existence of giants. Wayne provides copious citations from many society insiders, along with extensive Bible references, other religious references, and historical material to bolster his contention. What he uncovers will astonish you-and it will challenge you to prepare for the fulfilling of God's promises.

About the Author:  Gary Wayne is a Christian contrarian who has maintained a lifelong love affair with biblical prophecy, history, and mythology. His extensive study has encompassed the Holy Bible and Gnostic scriptures, The Qur'an, the Bhagavad Gita, Gilgamesh and other ancient epics, language etymology, and secret society publications.

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Apr 15, 2017

Welcome to The Shaun Tabatt Show! Today I speak with New York Times bestselling author Joel Richardson about his new book Mystery Babylon: Unlocking the Bible's Greatest Prophetic Mystery (WND Books, 2017).

Here's the ground we cover in this conversation:

  • First off Joel, let’s help the listeners get to know you a little bitter. Tell us some of the Joel Richardson origin story. (00:38 - 04:11)
  • One of the great influencers on the discussion of Mystery Babylon is Alexander Hislop. Help us to get a sense of the scope of his influence and some of the problems we encounter when we examine his work. (04:12 - 11:08)
  • As we look across world history, who are some of the cities and kingdoms that have been potentially identified as Mystery Babylon? (11:09 - 13:47)
  • You make the case for Mecca, Saudi Arabia, and Islam fitting the criteria for Mystery Babylon. Walk us through some of the ways this is a very plausible option. (13:48 - 20:18)
  • How does Turkey fit into the unfolding story we see taking place right now in the Middle East? (20:19 - 22:34)
  • What do you hope every reader takes away from Mystery Babylon? (22:35 - 25:27)
  • You have several books in addition to Mystery Babylon. For readers who enjoy this book, which of your other books would make a great follow up read? (25:28 - 26;16)
  • Joel, if the listeners want to connect with you and find out more about your books, where should they go on the web? (26:17 - 26:50)

About the Book:  New York Times bestselling author Joel Richardson carefully explores what is arguably the greatest prophetic mystery in all of the Bible.

 Mystery Babylon is an in-depth look at the prophecy of Revelation 17 and 18. Richardson dissects the longest prophecy in the New Testament - the final chapters of the Bible - in order to make sense of these deeply elusive and profoundly controversial passages.

At once a queen, a prostitute, and a cold-blooded killer, this great harlot waves a golden cup filled with blood. Adorned in purple and scarlet and gold and precious stones, she seduces the kings of the earth with luxury. Most commonly known, perhaps, is that she rides a beast with seven heads and ten horns. Her title is Mystery, Babylon the Great, the mother of all harlots and of the abominations of the earth.

From the early days of Christianity, believers have struggled to understand the mystery of the great harlot. Scholars and students alike have arrived at many different conclusions.

In his characteristically easy-to-understand style, Richardson works through the history of Christian interpretation of Mystery Babylon, weighing the strengths and weaknesses of each view, making a powerful case for a solution to this prophecy that will rock the prophecy world.

About the Author:  Joel Richardson is the author of several books including the New York Times bestselling Islamic Antichrist: The Shocking Truth About the Real Nature of the Beast. He also wrote Mideast Beast and is the director of the WND Films documentary End Times Eyewitness. He is an internationally recognized expert on biblical prophecy, the Middle East, and Islam and is a human rights activist and a commentator for WND.

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Apr 15, 2017

Welcome to The Shaun Tabatt Show! Today I speak with Michael Heiser about his new book Reversing Hermon: Enoch, the Watchers, and the Forgotten Mission of Jesus Christ (Defender Publishing, 2017).

Here's the ground we cover in this conversation:

  • I know we likely covered some of this ground when we last talked about your excellent book The Unseen Realm, but I think it’s worth asking again to give our listeners a bit of context for your work in this area of study. Tell us how you first got exposed to and developed an interest in things like Genesis 6:1-4, 1 Enoch, and the watchers. Where did that interest come from, how did that first develop for you? (00:38 - 02:26)
  • I know the book of 1 Enoch will be new to many of the listeners. Talk to us about what sort of literature it is, the important things we learn from it, and whether or not it’s inspired. (02:27 - 07:14)
  • Who are the watchers and what was their sin? (07:15 - 10:09)
  • What’s significant about Mt. Hermon? (10:10 - 13:05)
  • How does all of this better inform our understanding of what we see Jesus doing in the Gospels? (13:06 - 15:42)
  • Let’s keep moving ahead in the New Testament. How does this better inform what we see in both the epistles and the book of Revelation? (15:43 - 18:54)
  • What would you say to the person who is wondering why it’s important for them to be exposed to this material? How is it going to be beneficial? (18:55 - 20:58)
  • For people who want to go beyond what you share in Reversing Hermon, what other resources would you recommend? (20:59 - 23:05)
  • Mike, if the listeners want to connect with you and find out more about the new book, where should they go on the web? (23:06 - 23:41)

About the Book:  Reversing Hermon is a groundbreaking work. It unveils what most in the modern Church have never heard regarding how the story of the sin of the Watchers in 1 Enoch 6-16 helped frame the mission of Jesus, the messiah. Jews of the first century expected the messiah to reverse the impact of the Watchers’ transgression. For Jews of Jesus’ day, the Watchers were part of the explanation for why the world was so profoundly depraved. The messiah would not just revoke the claim of Satan on human souls and estrangement from God, solving the predicament of the Fall. He would also not only bring the nations back into relationship with the true God by defeating the principalities and powers that governed them. Jews also believed that the messiah would rescue humanity from self-destruction, the catalyst for which was the sin of the Watchers and the influence of what they had taught humankind. The role of Enoch’s retelling of Genesis 6:1-4 in how New Testament writers wrote of Jesus and the cross has been largely lost to a modern audience. Reversing Hermon rectifies that situation. Topics include:

  • Understanding Genesis 6:1-4 and the Sin of the Watchers in Their Original Context: How the ancient Mesopotamian story of the apkallu aligns with Gen 6:1-4, was preserved in 1 Enoch, and sets the stage for the theme of reversing the evil of the Watchers.
  • How the theme of reversing the transgression of the Watchers colors the gospel accounts of the birth of Jesus, his genealogy, and his ministry.
  • How the writings of Peter and Paul allude to the sin of the Watchers and present Jesus as overturning the disastrous effects of their sins against humanity.
  • How the descriptions of the antichrist, the end-times Day of the Lord, and the final judgment connect to Genesis 6 and the nephilim.

Though every topic addressed in Reversing Hermon can be found in scholarly academic literature, Reversing Hermon is the first book to gather this information and make it accessible to Bible students everywhere. The book also includes lengthy appendices on the ancient debate on the inspiration of the book of 1 Enoch, New Testament allusions to the book, and academic resources for studying 1 Enoch and the Book of Giants from the Dead Sea Scrolls.

About the Author:  Michael Heiser is a scholar in the fields of biblical studies and the ancient Near East. He is Scholar-in-Residence at Logos Bible Software. Mike earned his Ph.D. in Hebrew Bible and Semitic Languages at the University of Wisconsin-Madison in 2004. He also earned an M.A. in the same field at Wisconsin, along with an M.A. in Ancient History from the University of Pennsylvania (major fields: Ancient Israel and Egyptology).

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